Travis County Commissioners Court
December 21, 2004
Item 28
Number 28 is to consider and take appropriate action on interlocal agreement
between Travis County and the capital metropolitan transportation authority
for build central Texas. Bct program.
>> judge, I -- I would like to get a little bit of information,
I mean for the people that are watching back when capital metro was created
in 1985 it was precinct 2.
>> that's correct.
>> at the time that participated in the outside of Travis
County but in the precinct 2 area.
>> right. Everybody had a chance to vote. Two voted for midably.
>> and now that precinct 2 and precinct 3, you know, they're
overlapping areas, I mean what I would really like to know from capital metro
and I guess cap metro can give
>>
>> ... And valente in terms of that, and then for Leander
up in williamsson county and you see what was left. They really do have kind
of a mix between travis and Williamson county, let me get back to our best
way to kind of back it out. They don't have a store by store thing like you
have asked for, because I was looking for the same thing. The closest we can
get to where most of this is coming from is that it turns out that the service
district of the library district in wells branch is completely and wholly
within precinct 2 unincorporated. And so we -- they have specific numbers
on the library district which is a half a penny, so you can make the calculations.
You just double it. And by far the vast, then you hook at what the total figure
is they've given us and then you back out the library district and you can
make some assumptions there. The vast majority of where things are coming
from is, believe it or not, the wells branch corridor, in terms of the businesses
that are along there that we can document are part of the library district,
and indeed with esd number 2, once you back out the city of Pflugerville.
>> I’m willing to accept that, I mean, as being gospel, but
it would be -- but I would still like to know where -- somebody is bound to
be able to give us that, I mean where the distinction is between if wells
branch is most of it. Quite frankly I would like to know do you really collect
$280,000 or whatever it is? I think this is somewhere --
>> this is 400 -- this is one based on -- I don't know if
this is a population-based one in terms of build. I knew vga... 489-10.
>> yeah.
>> do we really collect $48,245, which is what that would
be on a yearly basis since this is a two year deal.
>> no, this is one year.
>> huh?
>> that's one year, the 489.10, season that a two year?
>> no, that is one year. That is f.y. '05.
>> I would really like to know if that area generate as half
a million dollars in the one penny sales tax, that would be even more interesting
to me. I mean the whole area where they collect those dollars, so wherever
we get it, whether we get it from -- tnr -- whether we get it from the comptroller's
office or cap metro, somebody is bound to have that, joe. And I’m willing
to -- you can send me on the goose chase, too, if it's something that I can
assist with. And in terms of we also get from capital metro calculations related
to when we were getting the quarter cent rebate and we saw a huge dip in the
quarter cent rebate and largely what is happening there is the city of Austin
annexed valente incorporated as well. A lot of what was happening quite frankly
was strip annexed into somebody's city. They grabbed it t one area in specifically
and in large part because the ledge helped them out is the wells branch area
is not in the city of Austin, isn't going into the city of Austin any time
soon at least on the three year and next plan and those are numbers that we
can document related to the library district because it overlaps and it's
not dueplegickive. Due -- duplicative.
>> the valente folks came in and talking about various things,
obviously them being in precinct 3, they were talking about the great deal
they had done with cap metro and what cap metro was giving them back. And
it far exceeded -- I mean the sales tax that they were collecting out of valente,
which, I mean the question that I have on that, is if that is happening, then
where is -- where are those dollars that far exceed what the sales tax is
out of an incorporated area.
>> legitimate question.
>> and -- and I -- because quite frankly between Jonestown,
lag govista, you know, the areas that are in precinct 3, even though they're
in the I think corporated -- incorporated areas, I think it's information
that we would need to have, and that's reason that I’m asking for that, joe.
>> all right.
>> you will also find out that the last time that the issue
did not pass, we worked on trying to get some of the money back out into the
community and that was build greater Austin. Since then we've moved to the
build greater central Texas, I think.
>> build greater Texas.
>> whatever it is now.
>> but now that the issue has passed there is going to be
less money to, you know, give out to the different -- or to share, we're not
giving anything away, we're sharing with the rest of the community because
we feel that they pay that sales tax and so the -- the past deal, great deals
are probably not going to be there again, because we've got use for that money
now.
>> yeah, and Gerald, where you may be thinking of, oh, is
that a two-year period, capital metro has extended build greater Texas, going
to have to get used to this, for two years, two fiscal years, so not only
are we going to get an allegation this year, they've made a commitment saying
and next year as well. What we are not getting and I think that is what Margaret
is alluding to, is the quarter cent rebates are over. Quite frankly the quarter
cent rebate for Travis County precinct 2, old 2, has been getting more and
more modest as years have come by. Really where we get good return on investment
is through the build greater Austin program which was originally only supposed
to be ten years and it's exceeded that. And I’m grateful.
>> what is the official name of the program now, joe?
>> it's called build central Texas.
>> okay.
>> we have a bcp and a bct.
>> move approval?
>> second.
>> anymore discussion?
>> all in favor. That passes by unanimous vote.
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