Travis County Commissioners Court
December 14, 2004
Item 13
Number 13 is to consider and take appropriate action on update regarding
clean air coalition and future efforts to implement county emission reduction
commitments under the early action compact.
>> good morning, I知 celine walker the county air project
manager. I知 going to discuss the upcoming activities of the clean air coalition.
Since judge Biscoe represents Travis County on. And the county's obligation
under the early action compact. You have a backup memo or you should with
several [inaudible]. I'll just go over that briefly and then you all can stop
and -- stop me when you have questions or comments. Basically on November
17th the travis -- the Texas commission on environmental quality did adopt
our early action compact basically. I did not include all the measures that
the region had included in our clean air action plan which you approved in
March, but they adopted most of those stated measures that we requested. A
summary of most of those measures is in appendix 2. Basically the book of
the emission reductions that we can expect from this e.a.c. That we can take
credit for are within those measures. Those are really the only ones we can
count because they are mandatory measures. Together these measures conservatively
estimated should reduce max emissions in the five-county region by 4578 tons
a year and c.o.c. Emissions by 6,054 tons a year. That's about a 5% emission
in n.o.x. Emissions over the next several years and 10% in v.o.c. Emission.
With an additional 12% reduction from the power plant. We had to count those
separately because we can't do them on a daily basis. And those are daily
numbers. I'll be happy to go over the status measures if you would like, but
the book of the material in your backup is about the measures that Travis
County is actually going to be responsible for implementing. So i'll start
there. The early action compact task force is a group of staff who is working
with the clean air coalition to make sure that the e.a.c. Is implemented on
time. And per our e.a.c. Commitments, the state and local governments have
until December of 2005 to implement all the measures that we put in our e.a.c.
And our early action compact. There is a general time line in appendix 3 that
goes over some of the major items that we'll be doing over the next year really
in the next through 2007, but the book of the work for implementing this compact
will have to be done in the year 2005. Bulk of the work. As part of the I
and m program that the county and Williamson county -- Travis County and Williamson
county voted to participate in, we also passed a resolution indicating that
the county would like to work with the state to implement a low-income repair
assistance program as part of that I and m program. That is going to be within
of the major programs Travis County will be implementing.
>> I got an inquiry on that particular program as far as
the low income. Program for those persons that are in the county that need
the assistance, especially to either retrofit their vehicles or either replace
or whatever. How does that really work? In other words, how will that be funded?
And 6 course I think it's, what, 200% of the federal poverty guideline is
the qualification.
>> right.
>> aspects of that. How will that work, per se? Just tell
me how that will work.
>> there was legislation that set up the low-income repair
program so it's rules put in place by tceq that direct how the program has
to work, basically. The program will be fund understand our region by $2 from
every inspection. The state will collect $2 from every vehicle emission inspection
fee, which is a total of $16. So $2 of that $16 will come back through the
state to the county to fund the program. By statute, 95% of those funds goes
to the low-income population targeted to receive those repair dollars which
is 200% of poverty. Any family that falls within that threshold is allowed
to participate in the program. The program then works with -- I think what
are called recognized repair facilities in order to receive the funds you
have to go to a recognized repair facility, and all that means is it is a
repair facility that actually has the technician and equipment who knows how
to fix emission-related repairs. D.p.s. Works with us to make sure those station
know what they need to do. You go to one of those facilities and they repair
the car and we give them up to $600 for those repace. The average cost for
emission repair in dallas and houston these days is running around $450. And
then -- the program will pay up to $600 if -- if it looks like the repair
is going to be much more expensive than that, the program right now will also
pay up to $1,000 to go and buy a new car. We are working with the legislature
and tceq to perhaps change that to $2,000 to buy a new car. That's not a state
statute, so tceq is talking to us about that.
>> let me get this. If you don't have enough money to fix
your car, the state -- and the cost of it is going to be what people can afford,
so there could be 1,000 to 2,000 dollars to give to this person to go and
buy another car. What in the world makes sense about -- I mean first of all
--
>> the car cannot be fixed.
>> if it's a waste of money. If it looks like it would just
be -- if the car is so old, if the repairs are going to be $1,000 anyway,
it might be better to just go out and try to get a new car, a newer car that
would have less emission problems so this car wasn't coming back every year
breaking down again and again. I will be honest, $1,000 does not replace a
whole lot of cars. It has replaced close to 350 cars in dallas and fort worth.
They have given people $1,000 at a time. Everybody agrees that the thousand
dollars is too low if you really, really are trying to help people get a new
car. We're not talking about a new car, another car. So there is talk about
trying to raise that to $2,000. That's the state telling us about that.
>> I mean, hey, I don't want to shoot the messenger, but
that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. Even if you give somebody
2,000, you can't go out and buy a $2,000 car -- that car probably wouldn't
pass inspection. So you get -- and it's not like that person can go out and
buy a $10,000 car because they can't -- they couldn't afford to get their
car fixed to begin with, so they certainly can't probably qualify to go out
and buy a $10,000 car. I mean that -- I mean somebody needs to rethink that.
I know that's not up to you. I知 sorry.
>> [inaudible].
>> okay tk-rbgs that answer your original question? Basically?
>> Commissioner --
>> yeah.
>> I just wanted to -- I was trying to make a comparison
to the existing programs. I think you mention add $450 cost of something in
houston.
>> for the average repair for emission-related repair.
>> along with that, are there any rules that have been implemented,
state rules that have been implemented for the replacement of vehicles in
that same area already doing such things such as what we are trying to get
to here?
>> other areas that are running [indiscernible] programs
are dallas and houston. Five counties in the dfw area and five in the houston
area.
>> I was referring to the vehicles that need to be replaced
from 1,000 to 2,000. Is that already a model exists for that?
>> yes. We would be operating the program under the exact
same rules as dallas and houston.
>> that's what I was trying to get to is that right there.
Okay. I知 sorry. Please continue.
>> basically one of the majors things that has to be done
is people have to come in and get income verified. We have been discussing
with the county's h.h.s., With the manager sherry fleming about possibly how
that would work with our -- with our already set structure that we have within
the county, and all indications are that should be no problem, that part of
the program. I guess the bottom line is the state ended up having a lower
fee for the inspection fee than we thought they were going to have. They had
been telling us it was going to be up to $20. It turned out to be 16 and they
only are giving the program three dollars n dallas and houston it's six. Not
from every test, but anyway, the money that -- the 5% that we're going to
have to operate the program is -- we knew it wasn't going to be quite enough,
that we are going to have to subsidize it and we did ear mark money in the
budget for that purpose. But little even less than we had thought. So we're
looking at doing a lot of the program in-house, as is Williamson county. But
we are going to work with Williamson county to also see if there isn't ways
to collaborate to have a more efficient program. One of the key factors that
i've been told by the dallas group who have talked with -- who i've talked
with pretty extensively about their program is making sure you have enough
recognized repair facilities. You can't force anybody to become a recognized
repair facility. The legislation was set up to make people want to become
one, but one of the key things that they've told people is they need to be
able to get paid quickly. They can't sit around and wait 30 to 60 days to
get reimbursed for their payments. The way n.t.c. Cog who operates the program
ajust that situation is they set up a credit card system that everybody loves.
That is a very easy reporting system for everybody, it's easy to track. So
that's something that we would like to look at. We would like to sit down
with the auditor and we haven't had that discussion yet. But anyway, that
is just one part, piece of the puzzle that everybody up there has indicated
is a real key to this program.
>> one of the concerns the way we get our vehicles inspected
now, some of the concerns of some of the citizens that do automobile inspections
is that they would not mind going into this particular venture, but they say
the expense of that equipment, $40,000 and probably above, to do --
>> 15,000.
>> some of them were quoting 40 and I didn't know.
>> that's in dallas and houston. We have a different program
from them.
>> they were saying this was a pretty big investment. And,
of course, I don't know if they are going to end up continuing to do inspections.
So I guess my question is to you, how many probable inspections locations
would we have or those that are interested in doing the new inspection that
will be required?
>> on November 18th, the day after tceq adopted our e.a.c.
Officially, d.p.s. Actually held a workshop for all the inspection stations
in travis and Williamson county. I mean they are moving ahead with implementation
of the I and m program. I attended that meeting along with our fleet department.
There were over 150 station operators there. There are about 217 inspection
stations in Travis County alone now. They don't think they are going to have
as many fall out of the program in dallas and houston because the equipment
is so less expensive, we're not doing the dynometer testing so it's only $15,000
for the test, which sounds like a lot, but the fees are designed to let the
station owners pay back whatever lease or loan they get to get that equipment
over four years. And make a profit. The experience in dallas and houston is
when they started the program, they had about 50% of the number of facilities
that normally did inspections actually buy the equipment on day one and be
ready to go. After a year, they were back up to 75% of the stations that came
in. Some stations sit back and wait to see if the program is really going
to go. So you are not going to have everybody participate, but they still
have people paying $40,000 and the program has been going on three years up
there now. You will have some people who stop doing the inspections.
>> it probably really hurts your business if you don't go
ahead and get fully capable of doing a full inspection. I mean because obviously
a lot of folks that just do the regular state inspections that we have now
will probably still leave their seal out there, but obviously you got to have
--
>> right, you will not be able to --
>> most people don't want to go to one and then drive to
another one that has spent the dollars on -- you are going to start finding
that station that has both seals or extra seals.
>> you are not going be be able to do a safety inspection.
If you want to do the inspection, you have to buy the equipment and do everything.
That's how they are setting it up in travis. But the equipment is not 40,000.
There was in dallas and houston there were a few stations that were allowed
to do only if their volume was low and they are -- they had such an expensive
task that in travis and Williamson county d.p.s. Has said in order to do any
inspections at all you will have to be able to do both.
>> so you won't have the choice of that.
>> exactly. Any more questions about -- we'll move on. There's
just a few other fee programs that the county committed to that I just wanted
to go over quickly. We in our plan asked that the state implement a prohibition
on heavy-duty idling equipment here in the county as they had in other counties
throughout the state. The state had already been looking at that state law
and they revised it and they talked to us during the process and we were aware
of this when we adopted the clean air action plan in March. That the state
really wants there to be a local enforcement of that kind of rule. So what
they did was they adopted a state rule that applies statewide so that any
county or city who is willing to sign an spelled moa that says we want a idling
prohibition will enforce it and do so. There are other regions in the state,
lancaster was just in the lawsuit because they tried to implement an idling
restrictions and the truckers sued who had indicated they want to do that
as well. So that is how that state rule ended up getting adopted. So because
we indicated all 12 jurisdictions that make up the clean air coalition indicated
in our clean air action plan that we wanted such a prohibition in our five-county
region, it is now going to be necessary to work together to adopt a m.o.a.,
Memorandum of agreement with tceq that indicates who will be enforcing that,
and Travis County will need to be part of that process. We'll need to work
with the county attorney's office.
>> does law enforcement -- I mean who will be really the
people on the street? Is that law enforcement?
>> it could be law enforcement, it could be our environmental
enforcement officers. We have this problem all the time. People will call
and say there's an 18-wheeler in my cul-de-sac, the guy is sitting there,
you know, he lives next door and he's got his 18-wheeler sitting there running
30 minutes at a time, can't you do something. That's one of the issues that
we'll now be able to address. There's also tour buses in downtown Austin every
day during the summer. There's also construction equipment that, you know,
sometimes people have complaints that people are just sitting there during
lunchtime with that machine still running next to their home. So we see it
as a complaint-driven thing, but it will be up to us to put in that m.o.a.
>> what is it? 15 minutes.
>> it's really five minutes. There's a lot of exceptions
for emergency vehicles, for air conditioning on buses with a lot of people
in them, you know, at the time, but if it's just the bus driver, got to turn
it off.
>> but it doesn't count if you are just in traffic.
>> right. It does not count if you are just stuck.
>> your enforcement people to hang out at truck stops. There's
some places you go there and just dress up like a truck driver and hanging
around the coffee shop. [laughter] pretty wild about how you are going to
catch people. I assume if you got your next-door neighbor, 42 degrees and
he wants to fire it up because he wants to go somewhere and get the cab warm.
But I probably wouldn't want to be the guy going out there to the trucker
say, by the way, let me write you a ticket. How big a ticket is it?
>> it will all be up to us. It will be up to us whether we
enforce it criminally or municipally.
>> the county attorney's office --
>> but would the enforcement team be the sheriff for Travis
County and also, of course, any local official? Let's say, for example, since
Austin is one of the participants, would it be a.p.d. And the sheriff combined
together on these?
>> right.
>> what would the jurisdictional --
>> that's what we have to work out in this --
>> who is going to be doing it where, in the city limits,
outside the cities limits, would the sheriff probably do both?
>> that's what we'll be discussing when we get down to work.
>> that needs to get flushed out. Okay.
>> number 3 is the Texas emission reduction program, grant
program. Just generally the region as a whole agreed to apply for these grants
that the state is really pushing as a program to help reduce emissions from
on and off-road heavy disease he will equipment. -- diesel equipment. We agreed
fleet managers would get two tons of day of nox emissions. We're already up
to half a ton a day so we're within quarter to our goal. We've got three more
years. We need to really encourage private sector fleets especially to apply
for these grants. It's a lot easier for them to get it. The county is looking
to applying for a grant in this next go-round and we'll come back to you in
January if we're able to find equipment we can retrofit. Ozone action day
for county employees. I believe, Commissioner Daugherty, you spoke about this
issue a couple weeks ago. Basically the county Commissioners and judge and
staff have always been involved in educating and outreach on ozone action
days, but the one thing, the step the county hasn't really taken which we
agreed to is actually kpheult to alter our actions on ozone action days. And
generally how a prom like this would work is each department, county department
would basically appoint an ozone action team member who would work with myself
and the rest of the environmental department and come up with a plan of action
on ozone action days. So, for instance, the parks department can delay some
kinds of mowing or activities maybe on those days until at least the afternoon
or not at all or the auditor's department could commit to so many of those
employees carpooling on those days, or the t.n.r. Department could commit
to only driving propane vehicles. I知 just thinking off the top of my head
here. But those are the kind of things that we need to start committing to
doing on ozone action days.
>> has there been a strategy employed by the 12 entities
in this five-county region that would suggest how they would get the message
out other than traditional ways, I guess, as far as what is an ozone action
day? What day is the ozone action day. You hear out the news every once in
a while or whatever, but --
>> there's several -- a lot of dell, for instance, I believe
it is, or a.m.d., They change their signs. They have one entrance into their
complex, it must be a.m.d. A.m.d., And on ozone action days they will go out
and physically put a sign up. All the employees -- I think it says tomorrow
it will be an ozone action day as everybody is leaving work so they know they
need to do something differently. E-mail is obviously a real big -- gets to
a lot of people quickly. There's talk about putting flags up at schools. I
know people over in east Austin are real interested in that so that actually
on ozone action days that there would be a colored flag out in the school
yard. And because really kids shouldn't be playing outside on ozone action
days especially in the afternoon. The only problem is that you really got
to keep people on top of that because what ends up happening is somebody just
leaves the flag out day after day and nobody ever knows if it's really an
ozone action day or not. So yeah, there's a lot of work being done with the
clean air force and with other groups, you know, to help make sure that word
gets out more and more. Most people -- campo actually does a survey every
year, and the -- I think people who recognize ozone action days, it's like
93%, which surveyors will tell you pretty much market saturation. Most people
know about ozone action days in this region and are able to keep track of
them pretty well. But I don't think most people actually do something different
and that is the key.
>>
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>> I can go over those one by one if you'd like. They are
in the process of implementing or have been implementing, but we need to go
through -- we need to stick with the programs that we already have set up
to make sure that they continue to get implemented on time. If you have any
questions, i'd be happy to answer them or if you'd like me to go over these
in further detail. The one last thing I would like to talk about is public
education and outreach, if you don't have any questions about the other measures.
>> we're in the middle of 4, right?
>> yes, sir.
>> as you're well aware, the key to getting these initial
reductions is everybody knowing what they theed to do and doing it. There
are a lot of resources throughout the state and in our local area to help
get the word out about these -- the new early action compact. Because we are
not a non-attainment area, we do not have access to federal sources of money
which dallas and houston do, so we are limited by which we can do with state
and local dollars. I tried to list most of the programs that actually have
some funding to do public education and outreach because I know it's real
important. Two that are probably -- the two that have the most money in them
is each biennium they give our five-county region over a million dollars.
In the past those monies have been used for all the technical analysis that
we've had to do to put the eac together, all the modeling and the emotions
inventory work. We had to do that on our own. They gave us money, but they
did not perform that work for us. Now that we are moving from the planning
phase of this process into the implementation phase, tceq has suggested changing
the wording on that appropriation rider to say you can use the money to actually
implement some programs, actually get some emission reductions. And we fully
support that. We've asked them to do that. So hopefully it will be clear after
this next legislative session that those monies will be used to also implement
emission reduction measures. You should probably think about adding that to
your legislative issues list, just bringing it up whenever possible in the
discussions on those appropriations bills. It will be important. The next
pot of money is a state contract that d.p.s. Signed with enviro media. Shortly
after -- the state has signed a contract with them to do exactly what they
did in dallas and houston, which is a huge rollout of the inm program. Starting
in March or April you will see billboards, inm is coming. They have programs,
a whole elaborate media campaign that will be based on the same program that
they did in dallas and houston, it will be called air check Texas. That's
a brand that has been focus grouped to death and seems to work. Everybody
was very happy with the outreach that was done in dallas and houston for the
inm program. That will include mention of the low income repair program because
they will talk about some of the proceed slurs and -- brochures that will
be coming out of that program, but it does not include a targeted outreach
to the low income population that will be needing the irats. The way they
handled that in dallas and houston is the cogz that are actually administering
the program up there came up with a little bit of additional money to do a
targeted lirate campaign. And we may want to think about doing that. The best
way they said to get the word out about the lirat program is not necessarily
radio adds. They found that mailers to targeted zip codes where you know there's
a lot of population that is 200% of poverty or less really worked well, as
well as local newspaper ads in the local papers, something tangible that can
be can pass on to people. The radio spots kind of fly by and nobody was really
getting the information. But when they actually got something in the mail
and they could pass it on to their sister or uncle or whatever, that seemed
to work better.
>> (indiscernible).
>> they did that through the newspaper. The biggest way people
learn about the program is when they go in and they fail their test and the
inspection station gives them a brochure that tells them about it. They're
really enterprising inspection stations and dallas and houston have learned
when they go out and market the lirat program, they can start making money.
When they say somebody can help you make your repairs, they start getting
in a lot of customers. So some of the biggest proponents of the lirat program
are the stations.
>> back to the lirat program, a lot of the state money that's
available, the $600,000 for advertising purposes, if we decide -- the Commissioners
court decides to invest locally into dollars that will alert persons to the
lirat program would the same persons be the extension? Would they do this
through direct mail or however it's done, would they still be a part of this
process? We have to go and do it globally.
>> some of the folks I have talked to up in north Texas when
I have talked to most. Enviro media did some advertising, they did some radio
and it didn't seem to be helpful. When they saw the most jump in people participating
in the program is when they did these mailouts. We could almost do that maybe
-- they did it through the newspaper. They worked with the fort worth star
telegram. It designed the ad and everything and did it as a mailout off their
list. So we will need to look at that and we would need to do an r.f.p. But
enviro media has done a lirat program before.
>> how long would it take someone -- the obvious place to
do it is you're exactly right, at the stations themselves. People have got
to get their automobiles inspected. And when they find out, oh, it doesn't
pass and what do you think it's going to be? It's going to be 450. I don't
have $450. Here's you the documentation that says how to go with the lirat
program. If you have 15 days -- if that person receives this, can they do
all the necessary things to apply and to -- that we can qualify them to say,
yeah, you can do this -- you've got to go today. Don't wait seven days because
you won't be able to do it. You need to start it today because that's how
long it's going to take. And where do they take it? Do they bring it to us?
>> all the details need to be worked out, but the way it
works in dallas and houston is you can either call, may melissa gale -- mail
it in or you can walk in. 70% of the people in dallas walk in. We are proposing
that they would walk into one of our intake centers already which we've already
got four or five of them around the county. And they would walk in and it's
a one-page form and you just have to show something that -- either a pay stub
or something that you -- or you can show a medicaid card if you're on medicaid,
and we income verify you. And the part that is going to be tricky for the
county is are we going to have a voucher system or what kind of system, payment
system are we going to have for these folks? Because you're right. If it takes
30 to 60 days to pay, are they going to be able to get their car repaired
in that 15 day period or not. Are the repair facilities going to make it work.
They found that this credit card system, they do a voucher system, they give
someone a voucher, they go to the station with their unique number, the station
owner calls back to us and says i've got this voucher number, we enter it
in the computer and we see it made it to this station. That's how we track
it. They make a credit card swipe and we know it comes from that station because
they call in with a unique id number on that voucher. They've got a very sophisticated
system that works beautifully up there. I would not propose that we try to
reinvent the wheel at all.
>> how fast do we get the $2 per vehicle. We've got $500,000
in Travis County, so that's a million buck. So we're going to have --
>> yeah. We think we'll get 700 -- almost $800,000. It's
a grant program, so they'll give us the estimated money on September 1, not
until September 1, 2005, because they can't give us until the fiscal year.
>> it doesn't start until 2005, so it's not like we need
the dough before then, but starting in September of 2005 is when we potentially
have that. And let's say that in September that you have $50,000 that get
-- that have to get inspected. So you get $100,000 for that month.
>> they give us the money up front and we draw it down. We
don't necessarily have to wait for the receipts to come in. We have to wait
until September 1, 2005 to do anything. But we sort of have estimates for
how much money and they're able to give us something on top of it.
>> I know that the auditor's office is not overly excited
about this credit card thing.
>> I understand that that is an issue.
>> but they might be less excited about that if they had
the money, they had it in the blght knowing that they had the dollars. I think
that susan might be a little more amenable looking at that thing that way.
>> we have not had the chance to sit down with her, so we
will -- that's definitely the next step. We would like to take some folks
up to nct cog and show them how that works.
>> just listening to this now, and I know that the final
I want politiciantation I think -- implementation that we have to have for
this entire program to let folks know that we are going to put forth what
we are trying to do, is that in December?
>> no. This December?
>> no, December of '05. But if the inspection end of this
-- this is supposed to commence -- when are they supposed to commence?
>> September 1, 2005.
>> so September 1, 2005, do they get credit for that implementation
phase of the program even though we're looking for final approval of them
for implementation phase that is in December of 2005?
>> the final approval of the e.p.a. -- we're waiting on final
approval of a plan from e.p.a., Is that what you're referring to?
>> yeah. Because I知 looking at the implementation phase
of our folks and the inspection. Here we are 2005, September, we're going
to start the process. They're going to follow a lot of these categories that
we're talking about now, especially with the lirap program and stuff like
that. And yet we still be looking at the overall implementation of all of
this coming -- after we -- after December of 2005.
>> we have to have all of these programs implemented no later
than December 2005.
>> okay. All of them, everything.
>> all of them. By state rule, the inm program starts September
1, 2005.
>> so that's just a portion of the overall picture. Okay.
That makes sense. Okay. Thank you.
>> one other thing. The main local dollars for public education
and outreach, traditionally the county has relied on the clean air force,
which is a nonprofit that we sit on, as do moan many other local jurisdictions
and several other private sector entities for public education and outreach.
The county has contributed money to the clean air force every year for the
last 10 years as far as I know, approximately $28,000 a year. Traditionally
we are committed to giving them $20,000 a year. They have an allocated reserve
of at least $65,000. It's a little unclear exactly how much money they have
and what their fy '05 work plan is. But we have been asked to again cold front
more than $20,000 to -- to contribute more than $20,000 to them in '05. And
we have a contract amendment. I plan to bring that back to you in January.
It's up to you if you would like to earmark those funds for specific outreach
efforts related to the eac, it would be your prerogative to do so. If you
would like to contribute those funds like you traditionally have and turn
it over to them for their operating program, that's just an opportunity, I
guess, for you to sort of direct some of the public education and outreach
dollars if you would like. The clean air coalition and early action compact
taskforce do not really have a budget. We are two unincorporated entities,
the clean air coalition is basically a subcommittee of capcog. But the eac
taskforce is planning a workshop in January or early February, probably early
February, where we will invite all of the local elected officials who want
to attend from the 12 jurisdictions that signed early action compact as well
as their key staff who are going to be in charge of actually implementing
these programs so that we can talk to them more about what resources are out
there. There are a lot of programs that are run through campo and capital
metro and tree folks to help people with tree planting and keep Austin beautiful
with resource recovery programs and those kinds of things to let them know
what resources are out there to help them implement indicate of the local
emission reductions that everybody committed to.
>> so if we have questions that we want you to put to the
clean air force, just send those to you by e-mail?
>> yes, sir.
>> and you will bring the answers -- or they can come and
deliver the answers when we see the request for another $20,000.
>> exactly.
>> four or five come to mind, but I can reduce it to writing.
So -- so I want to make sure I am the epitomy of dlem macy when I do. What
action is needed today?
>> no action. It's to tell you where we are and what's on
the next page as to the next step. I hope that was clear.
>> we are informed, plus you did a detailed memo for us.
And it does include a good summary I think of the various programs that we
have convinced the state to adopt for us. Some of them did require state rule
making, and the state accommodated us and other members of our coalition.
And so we have come to the implementation phase.
>> we have indeed.
>> okay.
>> would you mind calling barbara in my office and getting
something set up for the three of us? I've got some things that I want to
talk to you about.
>> that would be great.
>> thank you.
>> thank you. You did a real good job.
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