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Travis County Commissioners Court

November 30, 2004
Item 23

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Item 23 is to consider and take appropriate action on an interlocal agreement between the city of Austin and Travis County for use and management of starflight. 24 is to consider and take appropriate action on an interlocal agreement between the city of Austin and Travis County for emergency medical services.
>> judge, while they're setting up over there, there's just a very brief introduction here because they will be the last persons to state about this. This is the culmination of an amazing amount of work by not only our staff, but the city of Austin. And not only these folks that are sitting on the table here need to be congratulated. Barbara put in an amazing amount of work, danny and bonnie were our designated point persons. Carol will always be the historical person as well because she helped us out with starflight and that whole kind of interim governance. I also want to make sure that allen miller is given appropriate accolades as well because you will see his work on the financial model to basically get us to a point where we are looking at something from a system perspective as opposed to trying to screw up individual line items. And I think this is a model that will not only work well on the e.m.s. And starflight agreements, but one that can be transferred over to central booking or whatever it is we want to look at, it's a system where you've got several governmental partners and not it's the city city it's the county. I want to say congratulations to these folks and over at the city of Austin and the thoakz up there. I want to make sure that julie joe and barbara wilson also just put an amazing amount of work in on this. And you all need to be congratulated.
>> thank you very much. I really do appreciate you making those comments, Commissioner, because there are so many people that are involved in this. And what I would like to do today is just simply do an overview for you, we would like to do an overview for you. So you have hopefully a handout that I just gave you. And for those who are watching by television, hopefully you will be able to see this overview as well. We are glad to be where we are today, and that is after months and months of discussion and negotiation, we are finally here. And I do thank all of those as well, Commissioner, that were involved in this process. The introduction on page 2, we do want to provide an overview in regards to those recently negotiated agreements, both starflight and e.m.s. We do want to have discussion and comment today with you, and we want to recommend to you that we approve these agreements, realizing that you're going to take an action next week. Page number 3 on topics of discussion, to begin with, the court authorized us as a team to go into the negotiations with certain issues, and so today I want to go over with you the status of those issues. I also want to share with you -- we want to share with you the non-financial benefits of the new agreements. We want to share with you the starflight, the independent review panel recommendations, and this is where carol comes in as the Commissioner just mentioned. Benefits of the new county e.m.s. Financial model, we feel like that is a significant change from what we have been working with as well as performance measures. And barbara sealy is here today to review that with you. On page 4 we'll just start with the court approved issues. We came here I guess it was back in November or December and we came off of the subcommittee which the names the Commissioner just mentioned awhool ago were on that, as well as some other folks I need to mention. Kimberly cal ton and shaun o'neal were also part of this, so I really appreciate their efforts. But we came up with some issues that we felt like would be important to the negotiations. And the first one has to do with the e.m.s. Program as a system concept. The Commissioner just mentioned that. And that is we now want to look at this system a little differently, and that is that we are all providing the same service. And we're doing that by the system, and not by just simply looking at each other as independent agencies serving the public, because when the citizens -- the Travis County citizen receives emergency services either in the air or on the ground, it's from a concerted effort, whether it be first responders through esd's, the emergency services districts, or whether it be the city of Austin or whether it be tcso, whether it be the city of Austin. All these work together. So that's our system concept that is throughout both agreements. Also, the designation of a county staff person, and y'all approved that. I volunteered to go ahead and assume the role, but in both agreements you'll see that there is now a county e.m.s. Manager that is going to work directly with both the starflight program as well as the ground emergency services program. And that's already started and kicked off through the negotiations, and now you're seeing a closer relationship between all the parties, including the first responders as well as the city of Austin. The development of separate agreements, this is something where when the committee -- the subcommittee first looked into this, it was -- it made more sense by looking through the one agreement than we need to have two. And for a number of reasons which we'll go through today, but they are now in two separate agreements. The role of the e.m.s. Advisory board. We feel like that's important to keep in the agreement because if this particular board can work as it should work, then it will add many, many things as far as the overall programmatic, financial, many, many things involving both agreements. So we're asking that the e.m.s. Advisory board stay in the agreement, and it is, and you'll see that in section 2. Cost reimbursement. This the another area that you asked us to look into. We did. And you'll see that there are some things in the agreement that reflect that. However, there were also some things which we had to get educated on, and we went and found out why we do certain things the way that we do them. So we feel like that we've approached that one in the right manner, and we hopefully will see some benefits from that review. Apportionment of liability. This is one where barbara and julie spent some extra time towards this, but you'll see that that's now been written into the agreement, especially on the ground side as far as who is going to be liable for what. Going to page 5, non-financial benefits. This divides starflight services and ground services into two separate agreements. You will now be able to determine not only operational things, but also financial. You're going to be able to see clearly for the first time who is doing what and what it cost to do what. And we felt like that's very important. Agreements include new performance measures, and i'll let barbara get into that in a moment. I won't get into that. We feel like that's really been a good enhanced project is new measures. Incorporates first responder agreements and unified management plan. We wanted to put that one in here because awhile back there was a mediation done regarding the first responders and the city of Austin e.m.s. Folks. And that was they developed a first responder agreement. It's a good agreement. They also accepted the national unified management plan. And why is that important? It's important because when you get to a scene, you've got to know who is going to do what so it will move as smootsz as possible. So we attached that to the agreements just for you to see and for you to look through and we hope you will do that next week. They're thick documents, but they're very important to the people who provide medical services. I was going to take six benefits continued. Training options for county first responders. I had many discussions with our esd chiefs in regards to what this means to them. And for the past few years we've been supplying some training money as well as supply money. But one of the things he they wanted to have was more flexibility in the way they choose their training. You will see in agreement where they will have the option of any way we want to go as long as it's legitimately used for emergency services. But I think that's going to open up some doors for them that they requested. Supports interlocal between Travis County and esd. This is brand new, but not really new in the sense that it hasn't been discussed before. And that is that as we have this agreement between Travis County and the city of Austin, then we also now want to promote looking at an agreement between Travis County and the esd, the first responders. Why is this important? Because again when you're looking at the system concept, then we all need to be connected in some way. And right now you do not have that direct connection by an agreement between the first responders and anyone. And because we deal so much as Travis County with the first responders, there are many things of which we need to be doing with them and they with us that I think will benefit the entire system. And so we're going to be recommending that we go forward once we approve these agreements that we now go forward and look at agreements with the first responders. By the way, you already are aware of the fact that we already have an e.m.s. Agreement between Travis County and the small cities, so now it's only appropriate that we do that with the first responders. Multi-year agreements, renewable for three years. This saves us the trouble of having to come back every year, so again it's an option that's thrown in. It's a one-year agreement with three one-year options. That the other thing that we want to try to do here is make something where all we want have to do is shore amendments if we needed to do that and not have to come back and do the entire agreement every year. Exhibits have flexibility to be updated annually. Fits what I just said. You will go back and update the exhibits, not the entire agreements. Now let me turn it over to carol in regards to starflight panel recommendations. She was very good at making sure that that was protected as we did our negotiations.
>> this actually goes back to March 2003 when the Commissioners court and city council decided to hire an independent review panel to come in and give their recommendations on what they felt would be the best organizational structure for starflight. So these are the key recommendations that were included in the interlocal based on those recommendations. And the first one is clear delineation of management authority. And in exhibit g you can see it clearly shows what our general management authority and what is aviation's authority and the general management of course is a program manager and aviation is director of aviation operations. The second one is a separate problem solving problem. This is for aviation. One of the recommendations was if it is an aviation problem that needs an expert, the experts are consulted for clarification or input on whatever the problem is. The third one is the creation of a county e.m.s. Manager and danny has already talked about that. He's serving in this capacity at this time. Last is creation of starflight policy and procedure manual. And there are a lot of unique issues to starflight, so it was felt that it was this that the program -- if they had a specific policy and procedure manual which addressed these issues. It is written in the interlocal that the manual be developed within I think the first three months. There's a time in the interlocal when the manual --
>> do we have such a manual?
>> not at this point. I think we're waiting for this approval and then it will be written.
>> there is a policy and procedures manual, but with these added enhancements, judge, they're waiting for this to be approved.
>> we're not starting from scratch. A lot of it will be a rewriting of what we have incorporated and the recommendations from the peer review.
>> do we have in place the same manual that we had in place when the panel made these recommendations?
>> yes, sir. We have in place the same manual that we had at the time these recommendations were made.
>> is the implication that the panel found that manual to be insufficient?
>> I do believe they felt that some additional issues needed to be added to it that were not in there exactly, and those -- some of them are even spelled out in the interlocal which ones need to be added.
>> we'll be working on the manual in the days to come.
>> yes, sir.
>> go to page 8. New e.m.s. Financial model benefits. One we have developed, and I really want to thank allen miller and shaun o'neal for this particular model, we actually went through various models before we came up with this one i'll show you this one in a few moments that captures the system cost as I mentioned earlier, and hopefully it will be a more cleanly and accurately management for growth, provides reimbursement for personnel, savings and contractuals and is more equitable distribution of revenue. If we can, we'll go to the next page, number 9, because I want to get to the chart. This new model allows for allocation of new costs over future years without requiring an annual renegotiation of the agreement. It continues to segregate starflight cost for expense and revenue to the county. You will see both of these agreements now more in line with each other with regard to expenses and revenues.
>> is there certain language in the contract that does this? Are there certain paragraphs in the contract we can turn to to do the narrative as to how this is done?
>> it's going to be exhibit c in starflight. And I think it's exhibit f in the other one, but I?m not sure. But the exhibit goes through and discusses that, yeah.
>> that's another reason why we beefed up the exhibits because those are the ones we want to come back and if there are amendments to be made we go to the exhibits and not the entire agreement. If you look at the exhibits, judge, that will give you ferg I?m talking about today.
>> in the e.m.s., Exhibit d, we switched things around and consolidated some exhibits.
>> so in starflight it's exhibit c, and in e.m.s. It's exhibit d.
>> okay.
>> looking at page 10, which is the old versus new financial model comparisons, I think this is where you actually get to see a visual, but also see the numbers attached. And that is getting to the system concept, and that is we now become part of the overall system. It is a situation where we try to praik it out to where -- break it out to where we do pieces of the system. We'll now be part of the entire system. So now you will see the percentages change. You're also going to see the dollars change because of the fact that we're now going to be looking at all costs, as before in the old agreement you didn't really see those costs captured that way. You saw pieces of it. Now what you're going to see is total costs, and our percentage is based on the number of stations we have. We have eight stations. There are 28 stations in all. So the percentage will change as the stations change. And I had mentioned to you in a previous work session that the city of Austin is proposing that in '06 that they open up a new station in del valle. In '07 a new station at scoirk. So as -- circle c. So as we see those stations come online, you'll see our percentages go down. However, we add stations our percentages go up. It's just the way the system works. What you see, though, for the first time on the e.m.s. Side is that because of the fact that we're now paying the expenditure side, we're now going to be collecting our own revenue. And so revenue now comes directly back to the county. So what you see reflected in these costs are the differences in the old and new model, you'll see an increase in the cost, but you have to go down and look at page 11, which is the collection of revenue, and there you'll see the offset. And the way this works is we start in October. In fact, when you hopefully approve this interlocal next week, you will see that the time clock starts in October of 2004. And when you collect revenue in this business, you'll see that you're not going to collect it all in one year. It overlaps. So the full revenue accounting will be done in '06. So the estimation is there will be $1.1 million that will be coming to Travis County in regards to revenue.
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>> we now see a balance between expenditures and revenue and it's clear what we're paying and receiving. And I think that's a real benefit. Real "the financial part, alan, correct me if I am wrong, starflight stays pretty much the same so you are not going to see a difference there. Moving on to page number 12 and i'll turn it over to barbara steven.
>> if I could, I would just like to quote the doctor because he is one of the guiding saints of this. Basically he said he thinks for the first time we're really measuring the whole system. And by that I mean not only are we measuring the city, but we're measuring ourselves and so we may find out some things we don't want to know, but we are definitely putting the whole picture out there for the public. The concept behind the performance measures is pretty simple. If you are a person who dials 911, we're going to measure our performance from the minute you call 911 until the time you are dropped off in the emergency room. We've broken it down into segments so that we're going to know, you know, in each piece of the system, dispatch, transport, on-scene time, at the emergency room, how we're performing and how we're doing. In addition to that, dr. Rock has developed some clinical performance measures which I think he's going to be looking at seriously updating again in '06. I want to point that out as a real advantage. We don't have to come back and renegotiate the whole agreement in order to update the performance agreements. We can do that on an annual basis. It is one of the exhibits. So that as we learn more information and realize we need to measure other things, we can go ahead and --
>> we're having some problems with this mic.
>> sorry. We can easily come back and ajust those. In addition to which because money is always important, we have financial measures which we have developed with p.b.o. And the auditor's office to track how we're doing with our billing system, to track how we're doing with our collection system. So I think you are going to see measures you've never seen before, you are going to see measures that were previously there. And I think, correct me if I am wrong, but I think we're going to put these up on the web, aren't we, so the public can see these. There is one new component. The city has always done this. They survey their customers for customer satisfaction. We're hoping to tack along on that survey so we're going to know how county residents are satisfied with the e.m.s. Service. So I think we went through many, many iterations with this, many people reviewed them. It was a wonderful collaborative effort. And the best thing is as this system changes, we can easily adapt the performance measures to come and show the changes in the system over time.
>> and so if you go to page 13, not that that's unlucky, but that's our conclusion, and that is that we would like to recommend that the court approve the starflight interlocal agreement as well as recommend that the court approve the e.m.s. Interlocal agreement. And there is -- before I end here today, and I?m going to forget if I don't bring it up, Commissioner Sonleitner, there was one other person that kind of acted like our scribe and you are familiar with her because she worked for the county and that's heather cook. So I want to thank her for all of this work that she did in this as well.
>> there is -- I would like to thing i.t.s. Too. I've never actually done a power point presentation on channel 17 and they came down and saved my life this morning. So I want to make sure. Thank you very much, guys.
>> so how do we monitor achievement of the outstanding performance measures on page 12?
>> I?m glad you asked. That is a situation where we are going to have to sit down now and make a determination as to who does that on the county's side. You have a county e.m.s. Manager. You are looking at that person that's acting in that role now. What we will need to make a determination with is do we need to add someone, either on my existing staff or add someone that needs to be the e.m.s. Manager or assist me in being that e.m.s. Manager. Because one of the things that's going to occur is that once we approve the agreement, then the agreement is of no consequence if you don't follow up with it and you don't complete the things you say you are going to need to complete. One of them is performance measures. Now, we do have the benefit based upon technology today to where you can access a lot of things off of the web. In fact, in having negotiations with the city, one of the things that I am going to have is access to a lot of the websites that they have. They are going to be providing me as you see when you look at the back of this and all the performance measures they are going to be providing me monthly, quarrel as well as annual reports. They are going to be coming here and giving you an annual report. And so I think you are going to see a lot of activity that's going to be needed to take place here. Technology will take care of some of it, but staff will are to be involved in it in order to stay up with it because when you get into the advisory board, for instance, they are going to require information. They are going to want to know particular statistical information when they are trying to make recommendations. You are going to want to know it. And so this is not going to be just that you approve it and we live happily ever after. This means the work begins and rule I staying with this contract, -- really staying with the contract, with the relationship with the first responders and the city of Austin and all the aspects of that. Judge, I?m glad you asked that question because that's an important one.
>> so the answer is we're still trying to determine how we monitor and implement the performance measures.
>> we know how we want to monitor them. Again it's going to be the people involved in doing. That that's the question. And as you know, i'll do my very best to try to do it. If I can't, you know me, i'll come up here and tell you that I can't.
>> but there are specific reports due in to the county either on an annual basis or quarterly basis or monthly basis.
>> yes, a lot of this is going to be submitted to us so it's not something we have to generate. It's something we have asked them to provide us and it's listed under the performance measures and the timing of that is listed. So again, a lot of it -- we don't have to go dig it up, judge, it's coming to you, but once it comes to us, that's where staffing comes into --
>> [inaudible].
>> and how to respond.
>> will the committee be able to brainstorm on that particular aspect of the presentation between now and next Tuesday and make a specific recommendation to the court?
>> I would be more than happy to. We would be more than happy to.
>> anything further on either of these items today? 23 or 24? Those will be back on the agenda next week. We appreciate the outstanding work of the committee. And the various collaborators from clout the county. -- from throughout the county.
>> thank you.
>> thank you.

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