Travis County Commissioners Court
September 21, 2004
    Item 41
 
   That is number 41 and they have an opportunity that is time sensitive. 41 
    is consider and take appropriate action on request to authorize staff and 
    financial add visitor and certain underwriters to proceed to investigate and 
    develop a plan to refinance various county bonds to achieve economic savings. 
    After the introductions, the opportunity is [indiscernible] 
    >> I’m the financial advisor, and with me this morning I 
    have jodi giles op my right and his colleague gary pot erand gary kim ball 
    from first southwest company who you've dealt with in the past. What we're 
    here to talk to you about is there are probably 8 or 9 series of bonds that 
    you have outstanding that have certain maturities out there with could coupons 
    at a high enough range if we did advanced funding at this point in time we 
    could probably say the county somewhere in between a million and a half, two 
    million dollars n. Debt service over the next several years. I just brought 
    these along to show you that first albany and both first southwest have been 
    giving me proposals and showing me numbers, we've been following this, but 
    the way the market has been going up and down in our range, you know, by the 
    time I get one, david sent me some numbers one time that looked really good 
    and I was going to come to you and the market moved and it didn't look good 
    anymore and it's been doing this. We all do believe right now the time sensitive 
    nature is the bias on interest rates is upward. We've been in this range for 
    about three years where the interest rates have been sometimes on the municipal 
    bonds lowest 40 to 45 years. I think, gary, you were just telling me yesterday 
    over the bond buyer index, the bmi, the one we look at in the bond market 
    right now is probably lower than it's been what, 8 of the last ten years? 
    So, we all know if you read the morning paper, the fed is looking at raising 
    the fed funds right again. After the election, regardless of the outcome, 
    whatever happens we feel that things are maybe going against us and I hope 
    not too much since I know you have your own county bond issue right after 
    the first of the year. But this gives us an opportunity to save some money 
    and all I wanted to do this morning was to ask you to give me these folks, 
    glen opel, christian smith's folks, the green light to put something together 
    and bring back to you and see if we can catch this market and refund these 
    bonds. If, jodi, if you would like to say a few words, I would like to say 
    jodi and david got to me first, we've always had a way of rewarding folks 
    that bring us the idea. I've known jodi a long, long time, and he does actually 
    into some of the underwriting groups for me, when I serve on the Texas veteran's 
    land board and he ease done a lot of good issues and I would recommend that 
    these two firms be appointed to do this type of an underwriting if we can 
    make it work and that -- that first albany get a chance to run the books on 
    this one. Jodi? 
    >> well, first and foremost, we've been monitoring the debt 
    for quite some time. This is an opportune time. David has been doing all the 
    work and i've been reviewing it. So david has all of the details. If you give 
    half a unit, boy, I shower like to congratulate-- oh sure like to congratulate 
    yellow on the performance based economic development activity. That is outstands. 
    Congratulations. I apologize for the sidebar, but congratulations again. I’m 
    sorry. 
    >> just appreciate the opportunity to be working with you 
    again. We jeef underwritten several of the county's past bond issues and I 
    think we can do a good job for you again. 
    >> how quick can all of this get turned around, if we're 
    trying to catch the wave before it breaks? Anticipation of this, i've begun 
    working on a document. I will have to get to the rating agencies but they 
    can do that rather quickly on a refunding issue. We're actually lowering our 
    debt service, nothing we have to visit with them about eye to eye, and I think 
    we can probably turn it around in maybe three to four weeks. 
    >> okay. 
    >> they have brought us a deal who basically contract with 
    that team to carry it out. Initiate the deal ourselves or think it up think 
    it up then we compete? 
    >> yes,. 
    >> so consistent with our practice and I think which is a 
    good inwritten policy, in this time we would award the contract to the team 
    that has done the work. We have quite a bit of work that still needs to get 
    done to pull this off. 
    >> the process is we would come back to you on the day after 
    we priced, I would of course not price letting you know we would be going 
    to market. You are not ultimately committed to cellular bonds to these two 
    firms until the day you pass this bond order and sign the document. 
    >> so in layman's language, you basically would refinance 
    the same things but at a lower interest rate. 
    >> exactly. 
    >> thereby generate savings so we're paying yes, sir? 
    >> yes, sir. We can actually get much lower rates on many 
    of those maturities and what we've done in the past we've actually tried to 
    look for 3% present value savings. That is an p.o. We had numbers run yesterday. 
    A 3% present value savings right now by targeting that, we can do about 42 
    and a half million. If we lowered that a bit, if we think market is going 
    to move away from us for a new cycle and who knows, cycles can run 3 to 7 
    years, if it's going to move away from us, maybe we lower that target and 
    take what savings we can have. Savings are savings. 
    >> what day do you lock in the interest rate. 
    >> on the day we price the bonds which would probably be 
    on a Monday before we come to you on Tuesday. 
    >> how long do you think... 
    >> three or four weeks from now. We'll go as quickly as we 
    can. 
    >> okay. Questions or comments? 
    >> one of those things that you don't have to ask. You have 
    the -- you have the confidence -- I mean obviously we do. And I agree. Who 
    is going to have crystal balls and sometimes who is looking into them. The 
    way these rates are, I’m glad you're on top of them. 
    >> be authorized to proceed. Discussion? Thank y'all very 
    much. 
    >> judge, show me abstaining, due to the previous comment 
    with my son. 
    >> we understand, Commissioner. 
    >> I have to abstain on this one. 
    >> Commissioner Davis abstains. Voting in favor is Commissioner 
    Sonleitner, Commissioner Gomez, Daugherty an yours truly. Kristen, thank you 
    for your pair shens. -- patience. [indiscernible] 
    
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