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Travis County Commissioners Court

September 14, 2004
Item 10

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10. Consider and take appropriate action on proposed changes to budget rules for fy05.
>> thank you, judge and Commissioners. You should have received a memo and revised budget rules on Friday. The memo is three pages. The first page simply recodifies the changes that were made last week. If I could start on page 2 of that memo, just walk you through two additional changes that came up during the week that we would like to bring to your attention. The budget rules currently have a -- have a line drawn around the benefit line items that prevent money from being used into or out of benefit line items as automatic budget adjustments. We are asking for an exception, there are five other exception, but this exception is related to the cell phone policy. If a department establishes a cell phone allowance, they will need to move money from the cell phone line item into the various benefits. Rather than bringing those to the Commissioners court each time as a -- as a non-automatic budget adjustment, we would like to have an exception where those are included in the automatic budget adjustments. The second change is the current budget rules have a separate definition of capital. For software that sets it at $10,000. The court recently approved fixed asset rules, that defines all fixed assets at $5,000. So we changed the budget rules to represent the removal of the software at $10,000 that was previously in the budget rules. That's to make it consistent with the other current county policy, the county auditor's office has reviewed these two rule changes, they concurred with the proposed changes. The last item is we included the proposed language from Commissioner Davis regarding green circled employees. We did mention that -- that after review and thought that if we were to adopt such a rule, we would need to include some additional definitions in the budget rules that we would need council from the auditor's office and hrmd because we currently don't have, well, I think the court and everybody understands the definition of the word, we don't actually have them written down related to what permanent salary savings are and what green circle employees are. If we are going to have a budget rule that says that permanent salary savings need to go to green circle, we feel though those terms need to be define sod that the rule can be properly implemented. We also below that raised several question that's we think that the court should address related to its rule change. Just so there's no confusion. Primarily, whether the 1.75% would need to go to green circle before it could be used for any other purpose. Whether new hires need to be at no more than the budgeted low for that slot or whether departments could hire according to other policies, just so long as they stayed within their salary budget. The third decision would be of course all of the other uses of permanent salary savings which is reclassification, promotions, reorganization, savings and the like. And with that I would turn it over to you all for discussion.
>> I certainly understand the -- the sentiment because I think we all are -- are concerned about green circles. But I知 going to continue to advocate that this ought to be something that we do separate and apart from what our budget rules. This is kind of the thou shalt list of things. This is a policy that we need to discuss, but I think there are a few more unintended consequences. There are a lot of folks that use green circles, bring somebody in less than the minimum as a -- as a technique on how to hire somebody that they are not quite sure might be a good fit for that job, but they want to go ahead and give them a chance to perform and if they do they can bring them up as their skills and this skill base level improves. Also, I think -- the three most notable green circles happen to be our own executive managers. I think that would be beyond embarrassing that all of the money gets scooped up from -- through very large departments to take care of three people, there may be not be anything left over for anybody else within the department. I just think there's an awful lot of stuff related to green circles that's really it's policy and for the really something that belongs in the budget rules. But we do need to have that discussion about green circles. I personally think we ought to give the departments the flexibility to handle their green circles, but I think we need to leave to it those departments to decide whether the most pressing issue within their department that is left over is dealing with the green circles because that 1.7% is supposed to handle an awful lot of stuff. The left over money is supposed to do for performance based pay, any kind of salary, market salary kinds of things, internal equity issues. That if you basically say green circle has to go first, I知 afraid there's not going to be anything left there in terms of any flexibility in terms of departments solving their problems and for us to leave the heck out of it.
>> if you -- if you change it to encourage.
>> I like that.
>> is that consistent with the other budget rules. Do you have rules that are require and other rules that are encouraged? Or are the rules in fact rules?
>> yeah. That's why I知 thinking it doesn't belong in this document.
>> the budget rules attempt to be as black and white as possible related to their direction and to how the operations of the county are going to be. I don't think -- encourage makes it permissive, so -- so I知 not sure that -- that you are essentially doing any damage by inserting that language. But I would have to talk with the county auditor's office about the distinction of encourage versus require. But it seems that as long as the language is permissive, there wouldn't be any substantial impact from the -- from the budget rule.
>> well, what departments do is help us address the -- the green line employees issue. We are hoping that they used permanent salary savings which we really define as salary savings in excess of funded salary savings, right. We budgeted an amount for -- for flexible spending by the manager, that's not salary savings. 5.5, 5.7% and we say, okay, you got to use four for a cost of living, the rest of that is not salary savings, right. What I would be very careful about is engaging in a debate exactly what the definition of permanent salary savings is at this time because I would want to ensure that h.r., The county auditor's office, the planning and budget office were all unified in our definition of what exactly permanent salary savings is so that we could bring it to court in a unified fashion and there wouldn't be any confusion or contradiction between the various administrative departments.
>> I didn't know that -- I知 sorry, go ahead. I didn't know that was a -- that was a variation as far as semantics, the definition, the salary savings. Pretty consistent across the board. I知 not sure that -- actually clearly defined in writing --
>> you didn't like the definition I just gave, I take it?
>> the definition that you took had -- included the department salary savings budget, for example, that's really regarding temporary salary savings that the department generates over the course of a year, rather than permanent salary savings.
>> this is strictly, permanent though?
>> permanent salary savings is a thing that's not temporary, but permanent. Permanent salary savings. Let's say a vacancy in a department is not filled, for example. There are vacancies that -- that department didn't fill during the course of a year. And at the end of the year, whenever if -- if that -- if those -- if those vacancies still occur, then the idea of the permanent salary savings and green circle employees within that department they should be able to use permanent salary savings to -- to address the -- the shortcomings of the green circle employees within their department. That's my understanding.
>> what you just described was the same thing that the county judge just described which was temporary salary savings. Permanent salary savings is a permanent change, not a temporary change, not a temporary savings as a result of vacancies. A permanent salary savings occurs when someone leaves that's budgeted at x dollars and you hire their replacement at something less than x. And that will occur throughout the year where they will -- the department will live within their entire permanent salary budget. What we have here are things called budget targets. And it's one number. What happens is there's movement, people move in and out and in and out. They leave, they come, they leave, they come. Departments are free to hire at different levels within the range.
>> I thousand you all need to work to -- to gain the uniformity that you -- that you described so eloquently a few minutes ago. Can you get it done in two weeks? That's going to be a drop dead deadline for --
>> but do you want the word encouraged or require, that's the policy question?
>> I知 at encourage. [multiple voices]
>> encourage.
>> we can take the rest of the year to draft up a policy year change to bring to you through personnel amendments and leave this budget rule as simply departments are encouraged and --
>> leave it at that.
>> any objection.
>> I just want to make sure that it's [indiscernible]
>> move approval of the proposed changes.
>> second.
>> and ask staff to work on any necessary definitions to carry out the budget rules.
>> yes, sir.
>> but for clarity, judge, it's departments are encouraged to utilize permanent salary savings ...
>> with no objection are from the court.
>> making sure that we know what we are doing.
>> no problem.
>> okay.
>> okay. Thank you. All in favor? That passes by unanimous vote.
>> thank you very much.
>> thank you guys.

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