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Travis County Commissioners Court

September 7, 2004
Item 12

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Speaking of budget shortfalls, 12-b, non-routine personnel actions, promotion, medical examiner's office. Human resources has advised me typically the promotions are sent to the court for approval. In this case receive the amount of compensation. This is one of those kind of special positions in the medical examiner o s. I don't know that I have issues, I just had a note regarding human resources. I知 satisfied wit. Then I need to check with dr. Bayardo did about it.
>> this person is jumping four grades. You would think this kind of number would be out there in terms of the pay grades. I知 fine with it.
>> we did check and the person is qualified and meet the requirements of that position. We do perceive this as an upward mobility opportunity for someone internally if someone had been hired in from the outside, they could have certainly moved in at that level. The policy just requires that when it's that kind of jump, that the court must act on it and that's the only reason that it's before you.
>> move approval.
>> this is a forensic toxicologist. Senior. And so this is one of those hard to fill positions, I would guess.
>> yes.
>> any more discussion? All in favor? That passes by unanimous vote. C is a non-routine personnel actions, request for temporary pay for one records management and communications resources, two, criminal justice planning, and three is emergency services. In addition to these I know we have the d.a. Looking into this as well as the county attorney's office. I think I said pretty much everything I need to say to give the county judge's position in an e-mail to the court last week. There is another view. That all the managers have been giving us and [inaudible] has that view today too and steve.
>> do you want us to start? Yes. Mike and I are here today representing our departments and I知 representing the emergency services department. There are some nine employees in that department representing the technology and communications section, the emergency management section, and the fire marshal's office. What mike and I decided to do was use a little bit different approach and that is rather than looking at the policy and trying to maximize the use of the policy, realizing that we do have a salary savings in our budgets, that we decided on across the board which would not take to it the 5%. In fact, in my particular budget, it would be less than half of the savings I知 projecting. I would be estimating around 13,000 for a little -- a little over 13,000 tore this request. And it would be across the board for each one of the employees of $1,500 except for one, and that's only due to the fact she would be maxed out at that 5%. I listed the justification as to why I feel like this is needed at this time. And that is, us a know in the emergency services department, there has been quite a number of new initiatives that have been proposed and worked on this past year and will be implemented, we hope, in '05. And so i've used the justification for that that I am expecting excellent performance for next year in the implementation of all the different initiatives that i've listed here. And I can go into detail in each one of those. I've already done those in work sessions as well as budget hearings and I think you are well aware of the fire marshal business plan, I think you are well aware of the fact that I知 sitting on negotiation teams regarding e.m.s. Interlocal as well as the starflight interlocal. I think you are aware of the fact that we're implementing [inaudible], in fact we're about finished with that except for two sections in the county and as a result we're bringing in additional partners that will utilize that system, meaning the emergency services districts as well as the police departments. As well as pete baldwin coming in and explaining to you he now the wanting to now go ahead and put a coordinator position over the haz-mat program which, as you know through homeland security grants and other grants has supplied thousands upon thousands of equipment so now it's needed that that be put into his shop to where he now has someone that coordinates all that. So without going into a long and drawn-out detail, you've already heard from me in regards to all of. This I just felt it was important for me to be here today to let you know I知 very proud of my staff not only for what they have been doing but what they are expected to be doing in the coming year and I feel like this particular pay increase is a compromise in what burden I know it is on you as Commissioners to try to deal with markup over the next three days and knowing that there is money that's available here. And so that's why i've used this direction and mike and I have partner understand coming up with that compromise.
>> and to talk a little about what my proposal is here for is we have done a reorganization plan for criminal justice planning a few months back, as you will recall, and that was really based upon some of the restructuring that will happen in justice and public safety and our division and some of the new duties our department was taking on. So at that time I had looked at the functions of the positions that I had and how things need to be realigned, ass and as I mentioned in my presentation to you back in April, that we were looking into doing things a little bit deaf of differently now. Positions had worked and what I was staff was step out of boggs boxes and work more around team approach. A prime example has been the jail operation study where my staff did an exceptional job coming together as a team, really stepping outside of their functional silos and really working together and doing a lot of functions they hadn't typically done. Those are the types of functions that I知 going to be expecting staff to do not only now for the jail study and of course some of those functions are going to be continuing but also in the future as we approach other projects. I have a small staff, I only have seven folks in my office so we have to function that way and be able to coordinate as a team and step outside of our roles a little bit. That's part of what my proposal today is looking at the policy for temporary pay increase is looking at what i've been asking staff to do and what I知 asking staff to do in the future. As danny mentioned about his staff, I just can't say enough for how they've responded, they've really stepped up to what I have asked them to do for the various projects we have had and I definitely expect them to have full -- and have full confidence they will continue to do that in the future. And also as danny mentioned, I know you have some tough decisions ahead of you and I really appreciate your consideration of this proposal that we're putting forward in front of you today.
>> my problem is I voted against these pretty much. This covers almost every employee in the department. We approved 5.75%. Across the board is effective early October.
>> yes, 10-1.
>> the department managers have the discretion to go ahead and allocate the 1.75 as they see fit. There are other departments here, I just think this money will serve a better purpose in the year ending balance. Fire marshal's office has f.t.e. Requests, namely three. We do need a haz-mat coordinator. Pete has kind of been doing that alone. I do think we probably ought to do a lot more in that area. If we do, it will take additional f.t.e.s. And nothing permanent, but -- and it wasn't personal on the others that I voted down. We're kind of in a position where if we keep approving them, then I think the departments will keep coming and it becomes even more difficult to start rejecting them. So --
>> the only thing is that I remember the very first one that came to us, p.b.o. Said that if we voted for that one, that the flood gates would open, and they indeed did. And so I guess I wasn't for across the board, I didn't think that's the way the policy was intended, but it was -- i'll grant you that it was not well written. And this ambiguity -- leaves a loophole and everybody has jumped through it. But the thing that concerns me I guess is the wanting to treat everybody equally. And if some got through, then I think everybody ought to get through. And with the only proviso that whatever money is being utilized here has to be over and above the salary savings that will go into the ending fund balance. And I think with that understanding I can certainly stand one more gulp or gasp and that's what I feel like this whole thing has been about, huge of water and I知 drowning.
>> I reached my tipping point last week on one of the ones that came forward that I felt was blatant and subverting the court and what we had done without any kind of discretion. I guess you needed to see something like really beyond belief to say, okay, I知 done. We are three weeks from a new fiscal year and I thought honestly we were going to be doing a lot less on the cola. It is what it is, it's 4%. On October 1 there's a 4% across the board pay hike going into effect. And I知 done because this isn't the last gulp. There are other big departments out there who are preparing to put these things in and if we had not done that 4%, I would be looking at doing this right now, but I知 -- I have reached my tipping point. And I知 also getting concerned that some departments that had the opportunity to deal with their green circles, that's not you all in front of me, didn't dean with their green circles first and they should have. And so, judge, you have won me over on this one at long last. I don't know if it's going to change the vote any, but I知 with out this one. I think i've reached a tipping point that it's just -- this has got to stop and it's not going to be the last gulp. There will be more on the 14th and the 21st. I predict somebody would even try to be doing it on the 28th unless we shut it down. And probably should have shut it down two weeks ago but we didn't and I知 ready to shut it down.
>> but the problem I have with that, though, and it's a feeling that I think everybody will have at one point or another, why do I get punished for following the rules? Why do I get to pay for everybody else's, you know, lack of -- I知 at a loss of words. You know, for that. But, you know, it's that feeling that, you know, you follow the rules and you listen to the presentation, you follow the intent of the policy and you are the one that gets banged on the head.
>> this is not turning on performance, it's kind of turning on luck. If you were the best purchasing employee in Travis County but your department does in the have excess salary savings, you don't have a shot at this. The other thing is if you are a lucky employee, you have a shot at temporary pay, cola, effective October 1, and a shot at part of that 1.75 and it could be more depending on the manager's discretion. So all of a sudden when times were tough and we put in place the temporary pay policy in the spring, we had no idea you would have three bites on the a pretty big apple. At least I didn't. And I don't know -- christian said the flood gates would be opened and I agreed. Christian did not say we could not close those gates before the end of the fiscal year and I知 suggesting now is the time to close the gates because clearly the compensation picture is clear.
>> the only thing it's a little too late to close the flood gates.
>> not really.
>> because we still have until October 1.
>> if we [inaudible].
>> we're turning down departments that work for us. Those departments that do not we were kind of like we have to.
>> well, some of the others work for us also. The thing though is if you look at the total percentage of county employees who have benefited so far, then my guess is it's, what, 500 or 600 out of 40 thoufplt they were lucky. I don't know that everybody else is smart enough to come to us between now and October 1 though.
>> I think so.
>> give an affirmative vote because we gave them an affirmative vote. The whole department or virtually the whole department is what i've had against this. I don't know that talking further would help. I have consistently voted against situations where it looked like it was an across the board increase because I didn't think that was the intention of the policy.
>> it wasn't.
>> if I thought it was not intention of the policy, I would stop it. Unfortunately i'd stop it starting today. Is there a motion?
>> I move that we approve to be consistent with other departments that have come to us, but i'll promise you thatly look at policies a little closer.
>> think understand. This is all three.
>> yes.
>> judge, Commissioners, steven bowburg, records management. I have a couple items related to this. Before I say that, I sure would like to be somewhere else right now. I知 sorry this is so controversial on this item. But I think I have one that's a little bit closer to the spirit of the policy and this is for one individual and it is for an individual that would have been on our original list had we had the income at that time. We didn't know we had the income and we had another employee that was approved for a temporary pay increase under a very similar, almost an identical situation, the county web master and types of work we think will be done in the future based on work in the past, award winning work. I can elaborate if need be.
>> this is just one employee.
>> it is.
>> out of how many in the department?
>> 45, approximately.
>> okay.
>> but how many of those 45 wind up getting these increases is this.
>> I think we are at 11.
>> 11.
>> with three to come next week I think you've proposed three additional ones.
>> does the motion --
>> mine would be for all three.
>> motion is to approve all three set forth in the agenda. Any more discussion?
>> yeah, let me -- I said it two weeks ago, I知 going to say it again. We've just been had on this deal and I expect that managers that look at their employees that go you are not going to go to bat for us, you are not going to do the same thing and that's exactly what happened. We know that. I知 dismayed over the fact that, number one, that there are so many dollars that are salary savings or that are savings in departments. I mean I guess -- the amazing thing is that we've got departments that this has proof tone me that what do you is you submit budget and you have no intentions of either hiring somebody or there are career ladders or -- because I have asked where do all of these savings come from. Some departments savings are not a matter -- they are not departments that create money. So where is the savings? I mean the savings is somebody was left in the line item as a person and that person wasn't filled or they are career ladder dollars that you don't use and you put it in here. I知 not looking for somebody to blame, I知 just saying there are lots of dollars in the county -- if you talk about scrubbing or all the terminology we use, there are untold dollars that I guess people2jwst go this is what do you this with. Either you come up with something that you know you are going to need or you think that you might need and you use it for this. You know, it puts us all in an awkward spot, but I fell like Commissioner Gomez, we started and I remember looking, you know, at christian when he looked at me and said do you know what you just did. Taken truth of the matter is I did know what I did when t.n.r. Brought, you know, 77 pages of employees or however many it was. And we did. And I guess we would all look back and say we really are taking advantage of something. I知 not looking to blast the managers for coming because I know what you've done. You've had employees that say you go down there and get in line before October 1. And that's what you are here to do. But it sure makes me look at budgets where I知 going, now, is this person really -- has this person really submitted a budget that this is exactly -- you can't get exactly, but is this what they really need. And so I -- I知 going to stand my ground [inaudible].
>> right.
>> maybe we could do --
>> now all we have to do is vote against it. I guarantee you we try voting against them we won't be happy.
>> linda, can you give an answer how many more of these we've got? It's my understanding there's bun department getting ready to come next week or the week after that's $40,000.
>> I don't know in terms of dollars, but there is a department with 140 actions and yet another with three and one other with one action.
>> on the one that has 140 actions, what is the cost of that one, please?
>> do you have that cost? P.b.o., Do you have that?
>> $49,629.
>> that's fix to go it us next week or the week after unless we shut it down.
>> next week.
>> we got hit last week with 40,000.
>> $50,000.
>> any more discussion of the motion?
>> yeah, judge, I just want to make a couple of comments.
>> yes, sir.
>> and I really want to let the departments know I知 going try to stay as consistent as I possibly can, but there is, I think, a brick wall right before us and we are facing that brick wall. I really don't think -- it's our policy, there's a loophole there, no doubt about it, but we stopped the policy. Closed the loophole. And when these things come about like dealing with the employees and you have money in your budget and dealing with employees, especially those employees that you need to make whole, and I think Commissioner Sonleitner mentioned green circled employees a little bit ago. And those employees that haven't been made whole, h.r. Going making and going through each department analyzing the department, comparing to it market and yet they aren't made whole, but yet you can come and do what you are doing here, I don't think that's the way to operate, in my mind. But when budget time comes around, you know, again, I don't know, and maybe we need to tighten up also on the budget rules also in some of this stuff. Where we have a policy here and budget rule here. But I知 definitely going to address it. Right now we're kind of left with the gate open. And it really does put us as a disadvantage because it's tearing the court apart. That's not good to tear this court apart. I want your departments to know that, it's not in the best interest of the department to tear the court apart the way you are doing here now. So if it makes it a little tougher for us and we have to make some really tough fiscal decisions for the departments, it makes it tough. Especially when you have an opportunity to help us in the cause in making fiscal decisions. And I think we all can play a role in that, but of course the gate has been open and the policy is already there and of course I知 going to stay consistent as far as what policy is. But that doesn't mean that I知 not going to tighten down the clamps pretty severely in my mind next go-round and I think you will see what I知 saying coming up in the next go-round as far as this budget is concerned as far as departments are concerned because in my opinion it never will happen again. I don't know what we're going to do about it, but it won't happen in the format and the way it's happening now. In my opinion, we've made a mistake by not tightening up policy whereby you are taking advantage of it. And that's exactly what you are doing here. So, again, I知 going to stay consistent in supporting it, but I知 letting you know I知 doing it with strong reservations, departments. I hope you all hear me because I mean it. Strong reservations this will be revisited in the very near future, very near future. So I知 just letting you know in a nice way. But it's troubling. Very troubling. Thank you.
>> all in favor of the motion to approve. Sphoes Commissioners Gomez, Daugherty and Davis voting in favor. Those against show Commissioner Sonleitner and yours truly. Thank you, congratulations. Y'all.
>> thank you.

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