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Travis County Commssioners Court
October 29, 2002

The Closed Caption log for this Commissioners Court agenda item is provided by Travis County Internet Services. Since this file is derived from the Closed Captions created during live cablecasts, there are occasional spelling and grammatical errors. This Closed Caption log is not an official record the Commissioners Court Meeting and cannot be relied on for official purposes. For official records please contact the County Clerk at (512) 854-4722.

Item 3

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3. Consider options for Travis County to appoint board members to a regional mobility authority, and take appropriate action. Those who have business with Travis County, moving along speedily. I guess we will reach the other items real soon. Including comfortable [inaudible] and our consultants about the -- about the refunding issues.
>> judge, we did get a back a word from constable vance's office. They will be here shortly.
>> Friday you should have received the copy of the application, the draft of the time line. The draft of the qualifications packet and then -- then Monday, I think, you got the affidavit, a copy of an affidavit. You see that the time line is very aggressive, based on the conversation that we received from you all earlier. It overlaps thanksgiving and -- but hopefully you will have appointments somewhere right in the middle of December. What I need now is your comments, corrections. Have you read the packet? We have added all of the requirements, all of the inhe will jibilitys that we have -- ineligibilities that we have before. It allows the individual to state yea or nay as far as the truth in what they require, what the [inaudible] are required.
>> I have a couple of questions. They are not numbered. So I'm on page 2.
>> I'm sorry.
>> just a couple of questions, reca, real estate council of Austin, we are very happy that their representative is here with us today. I was wondering if that was just a start list of who it is that we would be --
>> just a start list. I picked that up from the last meeting, three or four meetings ago. I tried write as fast as possible. If you want to add --
>> the one that's come to my mind, when we say greater Austin chamber of commerce, we also include all of the other area chambers in terms of the capital chambers, hispanic chambers, to be all includive in our chambers, then related to the city of Austin I think we also had an intent to send a letter to all of the cities within Travis County to make them aware of what was going on about this process as well. My other question next was really having to do with -- with the time lines because a lot of this is dependent on when we get -- if and when we get a minute order. I'm not sure if anyone has an update as to whether we anticipate action by the transportation commission this Thursday. Is it reasonable to think that this court would act the following Tuesday? I think not. In terms of -- of us signing off on the minute order. I'm just wondering out loud here related to -- to -- because if we don't even get their minute order signed Thursday --
>> remember, what we talked about last week was advertising and disseminating information before we even have the minute order, but not accepting applications until we have the minute order. So -- so --
>> so that was --
>> this Thursday -- I'm sorry.
>> 31st.
>> 31st. So, yes, I would not think that we would act on -- on November 5th.
>> I think that would be --
>> going to be busy that day. Perhaps -- [multiple voices] by the 12th. It seems like we needed an interim step there that basically talks about the acceptance, the anticipated acceptance of the minute order from the transportation commission, officially open the mailbox over in judge bus on psycho's -- over in the judge's office from whatever that is, that we are accepting official nominations from folks. Then my question is if we don't act until the 12th, three days is not really very much in terms of an official time period for people to -- to get an application in. Move applications to the -- to the 22nd.
>> 8 is a more reasonable time frame.
>> this is a Friday. That was my thought is that the applications would be due into judge Biscoe by the 22nd. But we still do not need to -- to really lose much time here. Thits probably one of the most important -- this is probably of the most important things that this court will do is to name these five individuals on here. My thought in terms of how do we get to a short list is that I don't know how many -- how many of these we are going to get in. But quite frankly, I think all five of us should take that packet along with t.n.r. And each of us come up with -- with a couple of names that we would like to be included in there. If each of us does two, there's a short list of 10 people that we then call in for interviews.
>> maybe the same.
>> that's what I was thinking, if you find out that somebody has already got candidate x in there, well, then get somebody else into the pot so we have 10 names to choose from. But I think all of us ought to be involved in reviewing and scoring the applications and producing the short list. All of us be involved in the interview of whoever is on -- on the short list.
>> reviews for application forks the short list, 10 people, two from each member of the court, t.n.r. And the court.
>> well, we have a short week the next week because it's --
>> thanksgiving.
>> thanksgiving thing. If we -- if everybody gets everything back by Monday, December 2nd --
>> I guess --
>> we are going to have to do that.
>> I'm sorry.
>> I think we are going to have to do our short list faster than December 2nd. Because it's going to be hard to set up --
>> I mean I will make the chiment to have it done by Wednesday the 27th.
>> I will, too. Because that's -- that's five days.
>> I want to make sure, do we have a qualifications list as far as what we are looking at as far as the board member, r.m.a. Board member being able to meet certain qualifications, qualification needs. Give an example of some of the things on -- we put together, commissioner Moore and commissioner Sonleitner has worked hard to bring the court a list of -- of components within the arena of certain skills and qualifications, whereby a person -- several on this board. I think they should know up front what -- what we are expecting from them. I think that you can weed in and weed out a more -- more appropriately the type of person that you would like to have to -- that we would like to interview with that particular -- particular qualifications enlisted as far as this particular job description and what we expect from those persons. We also had an opportunity to -- commissioner Moore and commissioner Sonleitner and myself to -- to attend I think a very important meeting, down in san antonio. About the authority, the does and don'ts aspects. There are a lot of does and don'ts that I think we need to continue to -- to look at in order for this project to be successful. And -- and the board members are at the beginning steps of -- of this process. All of us are going to need to look very closely at the skills and also proponents within these job description, what we expect, financial background, a whole bunch of things. What we expect the board persons to actually have and what I did hear, though, you have to really weed things out, whether you have a real good, good board and also an executive director of the board, just [inaudible] water worker [inaudible], wearing many hats, we are talking about the cream of the crop. In order for -- for them to avoid pitfalls that maybe other toll authorities had experienced. Weed in, weed out process, cream of the crop for the r.m.a. Board members to be those persons that we feel would be -- we be a vital asset to the transportation criteria -- congestion relief for this central Texas area. So I feel pretty comfortable as far as some of these -- these time lines are concerned. However, the bottom line is that -- is that if we even takes maybe an extra week in this thing, I don't want to close an opportunity -- a person that we may want to have on there, may not have an opportunity to be there because of whatever reason. Because if we have good persons out there, we want to make sure we include them in the process, get them on board if they are willing to do it. I think that we are headed in the right direction. Again as far as the media, involvement, state like that, how do we do that -- can you explain that media concept as far as getting the word out and stuff of that nature?
>> what I had envisioned, commissioner, was to -- to fax the information out to everyone in addition to mailouts based on the packet that you have. Assuming that you all approve the packet that you have received. Which lests the qualification, the job application, and affidavit. And that's what I had envisioned. In addition to the -- to these people and then the few that commissioner Sonleitner gave me this morning, which is the additional area chamber of commerce as well as the other cities within the area.
>> oakie doke. I wanted to know if we advertised properly --
>> what I don't have is a date when to start that. Right now it said the 30th, I guess we will figure out -- do I have to wait until you get the minute order to send these packets out or send them out as soon as -- [multiple voices] [multiple voices] we need to let folks know in the community that we are interested in appointing a board member to the r.m.a. I think -- you know, it's a situation where I think we need to move pretty fast as far as getting persons that we feel are interested in this to apply. So I -- I wouldn't have any objection for it getting out as soon as possible.
>> the one thing I guess what we can't add in is the specific date that applications begin to be received because that -- that will probably be the same day that we accept the manuscript order.
>> likely the 12th.
>> the minute order.
>> likely the 12th.
>> I suppose we could put 11, 12th.
>> court anticipates acting on minutes order and opening applications.
>> right. Beginning to accept.
>> okay, 11, 12 versus 12 --
>> right here you have 11-12 develop interview questions. I think that you could add as a task to that date, anticipating the adoption of minute order of the court, begin accepting applications. I will put it in the backup, as might have seen, deadline for applications, what I will change that to read is acceptance of applications begin 11-12 and end 11-22.
>> or whoever, when the minute order is adopted.
>> okay.
>> > now, I will just finish. My suggestion would be then that the 11-15 number slip to 11-22.
>> right, I have that.
>> that the 11-18 be changed to 11-27. And that the -- where you have t.n.r. Staff and subcommittee of that task change it to commissioners court. I further would suggest that 11-20 be changed to 11-27. I think that you could set up interviews any time after we have short listed with you. Then on the last task, instead of take recommendations of subcommittee, I would put consideration of appointments by the full court.
>> uh-huh.
>> I have another thought about how we could do this in terms of how do we get and score these applications and get down to a short list. And it could be that we handle it the same way that you do when you are scoring an r.f.p. When you have the individual folks, individual perspectives from purchasing, from t.n.r., Blah blah blah. Is it -- is that each of us takes our packet, we score these applications working on our own, score the applications, then we turn in our work product to joe and his staff for them to add up and rank what this individual work product is and to invite the top eight scoring folks in for consideration for the five -- I'm sorry, we are down to three, aren't we? I had to rethink that, I apologize. I would go with the top five or do we want to go to six? Six to get it down to three?
>> I think -- [multiple voices]
>> five or six, I mean -- [multiple voices] to get down to three. I'm sorry, you all, I was thinking five there for a moment is what we had to do. Which would make it easy, one for each. We score, hand off to t.n.r. To do all of the official scoring and the top five or six would be invited in for short list personal interview was the full court. And it seems to me that the staff work with the full court to -- to work on the interview questions, which I think are going to be pretty easy to -- to help, we will look to t.n.r. To help us with that.
>> we have so much trouble coming up with questions. [ laughter ]
>> oh, yeah.
>> we have lots of questions.
>> > so that assumes that the interviews would be conducted between -- between November 27th and December 10th?
>> well, let's be realistic. It's not going to happen on Thursday, Friday thanksgiving. So the reality is that the interviews will occur between Monday December 2nd, and --
>> I'm just -- the task was to set up the interviews, I figure the interviewed themselves would take place later than that.
>> uh-huh.
>> because the other -- the other thing that has to be fact tored in is a trip to new york city. Factored in is a trip to new york city. Because of the economy, lad believes that we really ought to physically appear before the bond rating firms and explain this year. Last year we thought we didn't have to do that and we didn't.
>> well, it was also post 9-11, there wasn't any travel up to new york last year.
>> typically, that's around 13, 14, 15th, right? [inaudible]
>> the flights out are on Wednesday, the 11th and the actual physical meetings are on Thursday the 12th and Friday the 13th of December.
>> of December.
>> so we probably want to try to get this done the 10th of December.
>> if you could get it done before we leave if we can.
>> talk about that up in new york, that's correct.
>> well, you have got some time in there to work with.
>> I guess --
>> seven months.
>> basically between the 2nd and the 10th --
>> do you all expect the to have the interviews here in court as a full body, how do you plan to --
>> do we want to set aside a time on December 3rd, judge, that's a Tuesday. We don't have to then -- then wrangle with everybody's schedules because we are already here on Tuesday the 3rd. [one moment please for change in captioners]
>> I guess the changes to the particular document, it would be good if we could get that delivered to us as soon as possible so we could at least start working our schedules around what we're doing here this morning.
>> i'll correct it this afternoon.
>> right. And get that back to us. And only one other question that I may want to pose, and that's not to say that the applicants really have to know up front about some things, but we've basically got three plans that we're looking at as far as transportation. One is the campo plan itself. And then you have two Texas state plans. And since the campo plan probably will get some of the attention -- and I understand that there are a couple of projects that are already in here, in the rma project, 183-a and also sh 45 southeast, but there are still things I think within the campo plan itself that members on the board should be exposed to so we can look at the overall renal national -- regional approach to some of our transportation congestion problems shared by this region. I think it would be kind of important for the board members in some stage of this process to get very involved with the campo plan. So it's not in here as such, but I just think to alert those folks that that probably is something that he really need to get some kind of summary.
>> I think you raise an excellent point. I think we should be preparing an information packet for each applicant that contains the petition --
>> briefing materials. Good suggestion.
>> what's that other plan, Texas -- what is it, Texas --
>> well, there's the state transportation plan.
>> and then something else.
>> in terms of what rma projects, according to txdot rules, have to be stint with the campo plan and the state transportation plan.
>> so it would be important if we could let them know that kind of stuff.
>> and you want them to get this before they apply?
>> no, when they apply they would get a packet of backup that would help them --
>> with their briefing and knowing that this is a job they really want. [ laughter ]
>> yeah, yeah.
>> so we want to put aside that third in the afternoon 1:00 to 5:00 o'clock for interviews and then on the -- [everyone talking at once].
>> I think that would be good.
>> if we don't need it, then we don't need it. But if we do, it's already out there.
>> make sure we get the backup. I will look at my schedule and I don't think mo one else knows their schedule that far in advance. We can see if we can work -- the details of these deadlines and time lines consistent with our ongoing schedule.
>> when do you expect the applications to be filed?
>> at your office. [ laughter ]
>> where do we expect the applications to be picked up, my office too? The application packet and the information packet?
>> I can get that there.
>> I think it's a lot easier to find.
>> so when do we expect the packet of information to be available?
>> well, you're anticipating -- before November 12th.
>> November the 12th. So as soon as we can get all this stuff copied and assuming you're in agreement with all the packet information, I will make as many copies as the mailroom can make.
>> well, I commend you for work well done here.
>> and I only had one other -- more of a technical question about the application, because I think it's in a very good format, but is somebody going to have to fill this out by hand or will they be able to electronically fill this in?
>> I was wondering --
>> can we work with its about fet g.t.e.king this form turned into an electronic form because it neighbors maikz no sense that somebody would have to fill this in by hand. I would think that most of the people that would be interested in this would want to do it electronically.
>> yes, and then it's in a word document and it needs to be reformatted -- rather than having little blocks, it needs to be formatted so somebody can be filled out as a word document and cut and pasted.
>> we actually took it off the net. [ laughter ]
>> but we need it in electronic form.
>> yes.
>> and then the other thing is e-mail addresses like this big and cell phone number is this big. Usually you need more space for the e-mail address.
>> you're so picky.
>> I know. I hear from them people that do have cell phones.
>> also, there was the supplemental backup with the affidavit and I think that's an important addition.
>> it is. It really is.
>> it's consistent with what the governor had attached to theirs.
>> in addition to the application.
>> can we visit about how we get it so that -- no one has a typewriter any more. We have to figure out how to do this so that people can turn this in.
>> i'll stop over here and at joe's and see if he can assign someone to help us out over here.
>> they did a great job with the online reupping on all of our insurance. That was all done with prompters and it just made it very easy for people to fill in the blanks. So I'm sure joe could help.
>> we're still planning for the -- to commence tomorrow? October 30th?
>> right.
>> which means it's going to be a few -- maybe a little bit late to get the information from joe up on the internet or however so that they can pull it down and fill it in. We'll have hard copies in your office and then we'll work on how to get the electronic copies.
>> get it on the website.
>> yes.
>> we have a number of people -- there have been some people who have approached me and said how do we apply, so at least we'll be able to give them the information.
>> joe had a suggestion. We could say contract tnr because it's already in adobe format and we could just e-mail it then to them and then they can fill in the blanks.
>> so send the application to tnr?
>> no. What I'm saying is for an electronic copy, we put in the packet, for an electronic copy of the application, contact tnr and then we will e-mail it to them and then they can fill in the blank and that way they don't have to go through going to the web or anything like that because it's already an electronic copy.
>> fill in the blank and e-mail it to me or to tnr?
>> e-mail it back to you.
>> okay. Because you're the accepter of the applications.
>> you're like the purchasing agent. [ laughter ]
>> you're the official.
>> you can add that to --
>> I'm going to add it that to the packet. That way I don't have to --
>> just one electronic, go to tnr, they will send it, but the actual response will go to judge Biscoe, just like the hard copy ones: it all goes to judge Biscoe.
>> I'm only talking about the plirks. Because the affidavit they have to sign, have to have a signature.
>> judge, I would like to move approval with all the indicated changes that was made here by the individual court members, and we respond accordingly to these particular changes that were suggested this morning and that we move forward as quickly as possible with those time lines and other modifications that we're reflected here during the discussions this morning on this particular item.
>> i'll second that. And just as a discussion item, Williamson county, I think, according to mr. Weaver, was interested in our final packet so that they could enter it in their procedures.
>> when will they have this placed on their agenda for Williamson county? Do you know?
>> I really don't know. I think what they want to do is do it as close to our procedure as possible, so I guess they'll do it next week.
>> we might want to share with them quickly through mr. Weaver the time line that we're looking at so they can narrow it. Because I think they're thinking if we can come up with a process that works for Travis County, it works just fine for Williamson in terms of time line and criteria, form, substance, etcetera.
>> can I suggest one more change?
>> yes.
>> to close the loop between the affidavit, we just add in the application packet, where it says the following individuals are ineligible to serve as a board member in y'all's packet, can you just reflect that and tell them they've got to sign the affidavit that's included?
>> altogether or just add --
>> I think you ought to replace this and tell them there's an affidavit included, you're required to sign it. Otherwise it's just in the packet and conceivably someone won't know what to do with it. Tell them in the packet out right, the affidavit is there, it sets out all the qualifications, you've got to sign it.
>> i'll accept that as part of the motion.
>> I think that's a good suggestion.
>> so the motion includes the changes that we discussed. If you were to summarize them, it would be that a packet of information shall be prepared before November 12th, the date that we plan to start accepting applications. Applications are due to the judge's office by close of business and that date is changed to November 22nd. The next day the review of applications is changed to November 27th. Set up interviews with the short list of candidates November 27th. And now we plan to conduct the -- the commissioner's court will conduct interviews of the short list of individuals, five or six, right now on December third in the afternoon, with a backup date of that Thursday, December fifth, if needed.
>> yes, sir.
>> the other change was to clarify that the affidavit must be signed.
>> must be signed. And failure to sign the affidavit will result in disqualification?
>> result in a telephone call back saying you've got to sign the affidavit. [ laughter ]
>> and for melissa, tom does have a backup memo dated November 28 its, which is a supplemental of this one, which is a much more detailed affidavit.
>> any more discussion of the motion? All in favor? That passes by unanimous vote.
>> thank y'all very, very much.


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